There's nothing woo woo or spooky about it, and it can be life changing. People will come out of those sessions and they'll say things like they answered every question I asked, I have no more questions about my life.
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When we first met, I was like, okay, I'm game. I'm ready to listen. I don't know anything about this stuff. This is not my wheelhouse. Yes. I understand about spirituality and hypnosis and meditation and all these different things, but for someone who's never experienced any of that before, and maybe for someone who has hesitation about the methods, how do you approach that with people?
I know for people who are not normally into new age things and may not be familiar with them, probably everything I've already said sounds very way out there. Mm-hmm , uh, but it's actually quite grounded. And the process of doing it between lives regression is, uh, very easy, very gentle. There's nothing woo woo or spooky about it, and it can be life changing. People will come out of those sessions and they'll say things like they answered. Every question I asked, I have no more questions about my life.
That's Rob Schwartz, author of Your Soul's Plan, which is a guide to understanding what your life's purpose is. He has several books on his website, yoursoulsplan.com that are very popular. He's known for helping people heal from traumatic experiences that we can't seem to make sense of the things that keep us stuck and not able to move forward. Rob first came to me to get more people into his online workshops. We ran some Facebook ads to get the word out. And after a few months of working together, I attended one of his awakening weekends, and it really helped me unlock some things that I had been trying to understand about my own life. When he says people felt they needed no more guidance after just one session. I believe it.
I actually had a very similar experience when I decided to try your weekend. It was that Awakening weekend where you do it over two days. And I appreciated that very much. And I was like, like, okay, I really want to understand this. I want to experience it and then see what people are talking about. And it wasn't scary and it didn't feel spooky or anything like that, like you said. And it actually was very, it was the, the most relaxing weekend that I've had in a long, long time. It was very nice to be able to, literally I went into this other room here in the house and just locked myself away for the, the whole weekend practically. But one of the things that I really appreciated, and I don't know if anybody's told you this before, but the journaling part of it was huge for me because I'm a writer and I tend to process a lot of my emotions and thoughts through writing.
And because you had built in the journaling time and, you know, after the meditations and the, between life, soul regression, uh, segments of that, I was able to get a lot of thoughts down and able to process, um, this whole concept. And it opened up a whole new way for me to think about my writing in a historical fiction that I'm writing, because I needed to be able to come at it from a character that I'd never met before, but inherently it felt like it was me, which was really interesting. And so I ended up writing it from the first person.
The journaling period that there are two regressions, as you know, in the two day weekend, uh, the, between lives and on the first day, there's one to contact loved ones, including pets on the other side mm-hmm and the journaling periods after both of those are very important, especially after the between lives because for a lot of people, they get so much information from their council and you need to write it down right away before it's, you know, you start to forget it. So that journaling is really important.
I agree. And I think I could have gone on for another hour beyond that. Would you rather work or would you rather play, if we're going to go through all of this business building stuff, it better be for something that we love doing, right. Take a moment to do this quick life purpose challenge to discover what makes you truly happy. It's free visit Sallyhendrick.com/lifepurpose, as far as the type of people you typically help. Um, what are the situations that they've been through? Some of the things that some of the trauma or the chaos they've been through that they're needing to understand what it is you're doing?
Well, the people who come to the online workshops to the private sessions, uh, and the other things we offer, uh, they tend to fall into one or two groups, uh, which sometimes overlap. There's a group of people who are just on a general spiritual exploration, and they feel intuitively this is the next step for them. Uh, whatever they've done before they're ready for something more, something deeper, something richer then, because my three books are focused specifically on the pre-birth planning of major life challenges. Uh, there's a very large group of people who have experienced one of those challenges or some other challenge that I haven't yet written about. So trauma of one kind or another, and it's just about everything. Uh, you know, growing up in an abusive household, having an abusive partner, physical illness, mental illness, drug addiction, alcoholism, financial challenges, uh, pretty much any common type of challenge you can think of it's in one of the three books.
And so those people are coming with the question, why did this happen? What does it mean? How should I respond to it? Uh, what are the underlying lessons? And that last question, what are the underlying lessons that is a big focus in the online workshops, the private sessions and the books. And it's really, really important because when you know that there's a deeper meaning that pulls you out of victim consciousness, uh, which is a, a very painful place to be. And then when you know what the deeper meaning is specifically, then you can go about learning those underlying lessons in a much more conscious and much less difficult manner.
So when it comes to this victim consciousness, do you think that people maybe attach themselves to that because it's comfortable for them cuz they know it so well, even though it's painful,
I think that happens a lot. Uh, and that's one reason why people do it. There's another reason, which is that it's actually a very powerful and comforting way to bond with other people who also see themselves as victims. So you get support from those other people. And a lot of people have entire interpersonal networks built up around, uh, this mutually shared concept of being a victim. Now, when I say that I'm not judging it, I think this is a very natural human tendency. And I, in fact, I think it's a natural developmental stage. The problem with it is that people get stuck there sometimes for very, very long periods of time, years, decades, and actually even multiple lifetimes. And you don't want to be stuck in a painful place any longer than you have to be. One of the reasons, the work that I'm doing helps people who perceive themselves as victims is that victim consciousness is self perpetuating.
And what I mean is this, when you believe that you are a victim, you vibrated the frequency of victim. When you vibrated the frequency of victim, you are energetically stating to the universe that you are a victim. Well, whatever energetic statement you make to the universe, it always responds in exactly the same way. It always responds by saying, yes, that's right. You are. So if you state energetically to the universe that you're a victim, it says, yes you are. And it brings you more experiences that seem on the surface to confirm to you that you are in fact, a victim. The way to break out of that negative self perpetuating cycle is to understand at number one, that you are the powerful soul who planned those challenges before you were born. And then number two, to get some insight as to why you plan those challenges. Because again, once you know that you can learn the lessons in a conscious manner.
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I, I specifically remember when we met before that there were a lot of, um, there was abuse, there was suicide and, you know, spousal abuse, financial abuse, whatever that may be. Um, maybe even a child dying at a young age or, um, something happening in your life. That's really difficult to understand the weekend that I did. I loved that exercise that you went through and you said, these are the events in your life. And we put 'em across the top of the page. And then we had all of these situations on the side. I can't, I don't know specifically how to, how to talk about it, but I have to say that that type of exercise was very eyeopening to me. I was able to easily fill in the, the three or four things that I put across the top as these pivotal pivotal moments in my life that I want, that I knew had affected me, you know, somehow, because it was a period of time. I remember being in a state of trying to understand these things for much longer than any other things in life. And then to rate those based on, you know, what are the things in the left column? What would you describe that as?
Those are the divine virtues.
The divine virtues, thank you. So the virtues that, um, that we have within us and how those situations in our life affected us and um, through those, uh, virtues, I felt like that was, it really made a lot of sense. And for some reason I think what happened was when I looked at it and evaluated it and I was like, okay, this is so very true. All of this is very true. It is. There's no surprise here to me, but what it did for me was it told me that my purpose for this particular life that I am experiencing right now, I don't need to necessarily feel guilty about the things that I don't fulfill, but that I'm actually, you know, I've got a purpose here with the things that I am fulfilling in my life, but it also then made me open up to say, well, maybe there's a couple of other things that I'd like to work on as well.
Well, just to further explain to your audience what we're talking about. So the, this is what I call the divine virtues exercise. And, uh, it's based on, it grew out of research for the books over a period of years. Um, there were two ways in which I researched people's pre-birth plans for the books. Uh, one through the kind of hypnosis I practice, but number two, by working with mediums and channels who in one way or another could get at that kind of information. And in working with the mediums, one of the things I was able to do was go actually go into people's pre-birth planning sessions and hear the conversation that had taken place when they were planning their biggest challenges. And over a period of time, I noticed that a lot of that conversation revolved around a soul level desire to cultivate and then express certain qualities that are very important to the soul.
I gave these qualities, the name divine virtues, and I put together a list of the ones that came up the most often. I think there's now 28 on the list. It's things like unconditional love, compassion, patience, empathy, faith, and so forth. So from a pre-birth planning perspective, we viewed our biggest challenges as providing both the opportunity and the motivation to cultivate the virtues. And it's really important information for people to have. Now, some people acquire this information intuitively on their own, but if you don't know that you're working on certain virtues, if you just haven't thought about life in that way, that exercise can be really eyeopening. And it's a very valuable information to have because what it does from now on, at any time in the future, if you know what virtues you're working on, then when something quote unquote bad happens instead of feeling victimized, instead of seeing no deeper meaning in it, you just say to yourself, okay, I know that I'm in this incarnation to cultivate and express, whatever it might be. Unconditional love, patience, and empathy, knowing that how can I work with this new challenge to further cultivate and express those virtues? So it has the effect of immediately giving deeper meaning to a new challenge that otherwise might appear to be meaningless suffering that both reduces the suffering. And it also, again, allows you to get at the lessons in a much more conscious way,
Putting something down on paper like that, and then scoring yourself throughout. It really does open your eyes up to where does this fit on the scale of all the things in life that I could be doing or developing from a personal development standpoint and to find out, you know, it's okay that you're heavy in this area and your light in this area. Maybe you want to expand that out to be more, more balanced. I guess if you will, some of this may be challenging to follow if you haven't experienced it yet. And I want to reassure anyone who may have doubts about it to open your mind to this sort of self evaluation, if personal development is important to you, and if you've had any trauma happen in your life, exploring the hypnosis, the self evaluation, the, between live soul regression and journaling under the guidance of one of Rob's sessions could be eyeopening to you and could bring you healing beyond anything you've ever done before.
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Whenever people discover what's going on with themselves. And then they, they feel like they're questions are answered as to why, um, maybe why their life purpose is what it is or the plan of their life is, is what it is. And they start to understand that what do people do next? What should people be doing to continue that healing and that development over time?
Well, I think a, a number of things happen, uh, one is because you raise your vibration or your frequency through doing this work. Uh, there's often, uh, quite powerful physical and emotional healing that goes right along with it. All abiding healing is accomplished through an increase in vibration or frequency. This is a, just a fundamental law of the universe. Again, it's one of these things that is well known in the new age community to somebody in the mainstream. It might sound woo woo. Once again, but it's just a basic concept as to how the universe works. So there's the healing aspect. Then I think people just become more lighthearted and just get a lot more pleasure and joy and happiness out of life. Because now it's rich with deeper meaning, you know, previously there was just a lot of pointless suffering and the fact that the suffering seemed to be pointless made the suffering even worse. But after you do this kind of work, you realize that everything that happens in life really is rich with deep meaning. And so that makes life just a much more enjoyable experience.
The other thing I wanted to mention, and like you said, if you're not really sure of the new age concept, and maybe you are deeply religious in some other way, where do you find that people can find comfort that this work is actually okay, and not against something that they, you know, may have been brought up to think about or believe?
Well, you know, the three books are all case stories, case studies, they're personal stories of people, uh, who went through whatever challenge it is that I'm focused on in that chapter. And we get at why they planned the challenge before they were born. And when you read these stories, you, you see that these people are just like you and me and everybody else. Uh, they might be coming at it in a way that is new to somebody who's in the mainstream. And doesn't usually read new age literature, but then you see the kind of healing, the results, the deeper meaning that they see in their lives. And I think that that helps to open people up who might not normally consider this sort of concept. Uh, also when you read these stories, you see that there's no religious dogma associated with any of them. Uh, these are stories of spirituality, not stories of religion, whether or not you participate in a religion is actually irrelevant to the kind of healing that is going on here. You can be very religious and still partake of, uh, pre-birth planning philosophy, or you can be totally non-religious and partake of pre-birth planning philosophy. It really doesn't make any difference.
I highly encourage you to visit yoursoulsplan.com to look at Rob's upcoming events that he's hosting. He has one day or two day workshops. He has workshops in multiple languages and he leads a monthly membership with his wife, Liesel, where you can participate in online community meetings with others who've experienced his gift. The three books again: you've got Your Soul's Love, which is centered around romantic relationships. Your Soul's Plan about discovering the real meaning of life that you planned before you were born, or Your Soul's Gift that focuses on the healing power of your pre-planned life.
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